二頭一箱的搭配問題

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  1. julian

    julian New Member

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    假設現在有兩顆音箱頭,要進同一個cabinet....
    其中一顆頭跟cabinet是配一套的,阻抗8 ohm,
    喇叭箱也只有一個8 ohm input,
    另一顆頭則可以選擇4,8,16 ohm
    兩顆頭都有effect loop

    現在小弟預備一顆頭專職rhythm,一顆頭solo
    有幾個玩法請問大家可不可行?有沒有危險?

    1.兩個後級直接進同一個喇叭箱:speaker cable透過一顆電料行買的2進1出的接頭(立體聲)進喇叭箱,兩顆頭同時開機,用A/B box做切換。(如屬可行的話,允許用A+B嗎?)

    2.統一用一個後級進喇叭箱:從其中一顆頭的loop-send接到另一顆頭的loop-return,利用footswitch上面的effect loop on/off來決定用哪一個前級的音色。(如屬可行的話,請問要踩哪顆頭的loop on/off?)

    感謝指教!!
     
  2. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    小弟也很想了解這種情況要如何處理~
    不過相信建議朱董再買顆CAB的意見一定很多~
     
  3. 達摩

    達摩 Active Member

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    朱董:

    把我的Peavey 5150MKII的4x12Cab買回去配你的JSX吧!! 國外很多人這樣搭呦...^^
     
  4. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    果然~~~才過7分鐘就有這種意見出現~~
    朱董~存$吧.....
     
  5. HowardTay

    HowardTay Member

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    加顆cab +1...

    julian兄...你的兩種方法...

    1法...
    2 head output >> A/B/Y box >> cab input 即可...應該不用搞什麼2進1出的接頭的...
    A/B/Y box 應該沒有阻抗的問題...只是切換時因為後極推出來的功率...有可能會使cab啵一聲...危不危險得看cab夠不夠力...需測試...

    2法...
    統一用一個後極...切換要在第一顆頭的loop on/off...

    我覺得2法應比較可行...
    但是...都得多setting一組swith box...
    我想在你踩來踩去受不了之後...還是會加顆cab的...
     
  6. rock99

    rock99 New Member

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    這件事就是告訴我們

    玩 3P 不見得是件快樂的事
     
  7. julian

    julian New Member

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    小亞:
    感謝亂入 ^^

    達摩兄:
    目前暫時不考慮,抱歉啦~~
    真的要這樣搞的話,我比較屬意 Marshall 1960TV tall vintage 4 x 12" greenback,用crunch channel作溫暖的小破音應該有加分效果,不過還沒確定,因為聽說它箱體大一號,中低頻較足,可是音色也偏暗,沒那麼in your face,不知道符不符合JSX作high gain solo要cut through的要求...

    HowardTay:
    謝謝你的意見!!!
    方法一的A/B/Y box似乎又要破費了,因為我目前的A/B box都是一個input多個output,不符需要。
    方法二,請教第一顆頭是否是指loop-send的那顆?如果是的話,那麼loop-return那一顆是否要讓loop always on?
    我擔心第二種方式會影響第一顆頭原本的音色以及headroom...
     
  8. Dragon

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    一般 A/B Box 如果直接串接 amp 的 output jack 會不會承受不了 ?
    而且當只使用一顆音箱的時候, 另外一個音箱後級 output 會變成沒有
    speaker load 吧

    Radial 有推出 [font=Arial, Helvetica][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Head[/font][font=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]bone™[/font][/font]這類 amp switcher 的產品
    這樣 3P 玩起來應該會比較安全

    [​IMG]
     
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  9. 達摩

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    朱董:

    沒關係..我後來想想, 您好像也不是彈Hard Core和Metal的, 所以對您來說Marshall的Cab會比較適合.聲音較溫和. 只是我準備買一套新的Half-Stock, 所以那顆5150的Cab除了擺在家裡放雜誌之外, 還想不到其他的用途...>.<
     
  10. Shawn

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    茱利安考慮的真周到啊. 本來我只是想說一首歌從頭做到尾就用一個amp, 歌路不同時再勤勞一點換一下插頭就好了, 沒想到你竟然想把兩個音箱當成綜合效果器一般在換patch...了不起.

    Dragon說的radial Headbone好像就是為你設計的嘛. 原來講究的人還是很多的啊...

    達摩,

    茱董口味其實重的很, metal要是thrash不起來他還覺得沒什麼勁. 不過因為麵攤不時會做些像是aerosmith等較有情趣的rock, 所以他的JSX還是得拿出來用.
     
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  11. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    還好~~
    朱董對小弟的評價是亂入~
    而不是亂X入~!
    要不一世英明就毀了~!

    Marshall 1960TV tall vintage 4 x 12" greenback,
    用crunch channel作溫暖的小破音應該有加分效果

    其實V30音色就很優了~
    中頻較為飽滿~

    小弟目前用的CAB就是1 x 12" greenback.
    用一些中頻共鳴較少的琴時.
    AMP EQ中頻總是要開到很大~
    甚至要開到底還不滿意~

    何不考慮先借用某員外的CAB?
    朱董這陣子就努力賺$來弄顆"勃根CAB"吧~~!
     
  12. 大鬍子

    大鬍子 鼓版版工

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    這軍火競賽好像只剩我跟朱董在拼,將來不知鹿死誰手。^^
     
  13. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    其實小弟也在猶豫....
    接下來存的$要買2X12"的g-flex?
    還是要2X12" V30單體的勃根.
    總之先存$啦~~~~!
     
  14. 達摩

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    小亞:

    買2X12"的G-flex, 玩純Metal的人就是要用它啦!!!或是買Splawn的2x12!!
     
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  15. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    嗚....
    小弟已經越玩越輕了....
    最近居然開始練史密斯飛船的歌~
    老JOE好帥呀~~~!

    而且2X12" V30單體的勃根評價也是很棒~~~
    心癢癢.....
     
  16. 達摩

    達摩 Active Member

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    嗯....如果連你都開始玩老Tone的話, 那就有很多2x12的Cab可以選啦....Bogner的外型也很老...而且不貴!!
     
  17. Shiya-小亞

    Shiya-小亞 Well-Known Member

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    以上這句一定是專指CAB!
    想買Bogner AMP的人千萬別被騙~~~!
     
  18. LynchFan

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    如果像朱董的法一這麼說...
    那Guitar要從哪裡Input???

    法二聽起來也怪怪的...

    另外...難道不能Guitar Input->A/B Box->Head->Cab
    然後一個Cab分立體聲,一個Head左Channel,一個Head右Channel嗎?

    另外如果要便宜的Cab
    我要推Peavey的MS系列Cab
     
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  19. julian

    julian New Member

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    達摩兄:

    小弟現在唯一的cab是 V30 x2, G12T75 x2,X-Pattern,外型老而且不貴...
    這真的是die hard metal cab!!

    我的G-flex 剛剛賣給阿丹,據說配他的Mesa Triple Rectifier沒話說,很緊實的聲音

    我的法一就是Guitar Input->A/B Box->Head->Cab
    不過我的cab只有一個mono input,我不太可能去改它
    所以LynchFan的方法我沒辦法try,可惜...

    headbone應該不錯,雖然貴。只是又要換更長的speaker cable了
    看來短期內就是這樣吧~~
     
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  20. LynchFan

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    Orz我看錯了,朱董對不起...
     

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