[NAMM 2017相關討論] 再來就是Summer NAMM了...

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  1. 聰明的木頭

    聰明的木頭 Well-Known Member

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    雖然NAMM還有幾天,但其實很多公司都開始偷跑了,例如AKAI、Antelope、Korg...等,
    不過因為我沒有興趣所以這邊就割愛了~
    這次打頭陣介紹的是RME,UFX+才出沒多久他們就準備發布UFX II---!!

    RME UFX II
    http://synthax.com/index.php/rme-audio-fireface-ufx-ii.html
    1st Quarter上市,就規格來說沒有勝過UFX+,所以大概推測是取代UFX。
    主要變更點:
    • AD/DA、類比迴路等與I/O有關的重新設計。
    • 新的Mic pre,+18dBu、Range=75dB。
    • 耳機輸出加強+19dBu/2Ω
    • 取消Firewire、Remote與UFX+同樣使用USB。
    規格比較高的叫+、真正的II代規格沒有大變化...RME的命名原則很怪呀~

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    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    RME 的新產品沒有用 USB3/Thutderbolt 有點奇怪⋯⋯可能因為元件價格?

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    Fender 的美國專業系列.....看起來連 Fender 的訂價也慢慢提高了。:mad:

    FENDER® ANNOUNCES NEW, FLAGSHIP: AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL SERIES DEBUTING JANUARY 2017



    Introducing Elevated Features, Three New Colorways, Offset Models To Support Modern Artistic Expression Across Genres

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    HOLLYWOOD, Calif. (January 9, 2017) – Fender Musical Instruments Corporation (FMIC) sets the stage for 2017 with the launch of the American Professional Series, a new professional-grade collection of electric guitars and basses debuting January 19 at NAMM 2017 in Anaheim, Calif.



    The American Professional series invites a new generation of players to express themselves with an original, toneful and roadworthy flagship line that honors Fender’s classic models, while boldly proclaiming the brand’s foothold into not only a new era of music but also a new generation of players. A proud testament to more than 70 years of knowledge, technology, and experience making iconic instruments, the American Professional is one of Fender’s broadest electric series to date; It brings forth best-in-class instruments giving committed players the best of yesterday and today by pairing industry-leading models with new modern, player-centric features designed for an incredibly diverse number of artists across all musical genres.

    “We are committed to evolving with artists as their musical expression diversifies,” said Justin Norvell, Vice President, Electric Guitars and Basses. “It’s our goal to give artists the tools they need to push the boundaries of their artistry in ways they never thought were possible. The American Professional series stays true to the integrity, quality and craftsmanship of legendary Fender designs, while incorporating more modern, player-centric features.”

    To demonstrate this new line’s versatility, Fender American Professional guitars and basses are already being used by top artists across multiple musical genres, such as: singer and producer Ty Dolla $ign; Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee and Guns N’ Roses bassist Duff McKagan; rapper and producer Mac Miller; multi-instrumentalist and singer-songwriter Dhani Harrison; American indie rock band Local Natives– accompanying each on their musical journey toward exceptional artistry.

    Handcrafted in the U.S.—by professionals, for professionals—the American Professional series introduces new Stratocaster®, Telecaster®, Precision Bass® and Jazz Bass® guitars while adding new platforms—the Tele® Deluxe, Jaguar® and Jazzmaster® with the later featuring a rich voice, flexible electronics and Fender’s new V-Mod Jazzmaster pickups – the introduction of Jazzmaster and Jaguar platforms is a testament to the resurgence of offset guitars. Featuring new pickups designed by pickup guru Tim Shaw, the line also incorporates a brand-new "Deep C" shaped neck profile, new electronics, a new case, bone nut, and narrow-tall frets for easier string bending.

    In total, the launch boasts 16 models and 92 SKUs available in 11 colors, including three new colorways: Sonic Gray, Antique Olive and Mystic Seafoam. They speak to a legacy cemented by the enduring influence of the world's greatest players and songwriters, including Jimi Hendrix, Kurt Cobain, Eric Clapton, David Gilmour, Pete Townshend and many more.

    The American Professional series ranges from $1,399.99 - $1,599.99 and is available now at local dealers and on www.Fender.com.

    Models include:

    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL STRATOCASTER® & STRATOCASTER® LEFT-HAND

    The new American Professional Stratocaster and the American Professional Stratocaster Left-Hand are the latest evolution of the world’s most-loved electric guitar, that boasts a host of new features aimed at professional players. Developed by pickup master Tim Shaw, the new V-Mod single-coil pickups are voiced specifically for each position, mixing alnico magnet types to produce powerful, nuanced tones. Other key features include: a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice and a new modern “Deep C” shaped neck profile with narrow-tall frets that make it easy for players to bend strings. The American Professional Stratocaster right-hand model is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Black, Sienna Sunburst, Sonic Gray, Antique Olive and Olympic White. The Left-Hand model is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White and Black. Pricing for the new American Professional Stratocaster is $1,399.99-$1,499.99, and the American Professional Stratocaster Left-Hand is $1,399.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL STRATOCASTER® HH SHAWBUCKER™

    The American Professional Stratocaster HH ShawBucker isn’t simply a reimagining of the classic design; it’s the authentic original model, evolved for today’s players. The pair of warm, rich-sounding ShawBucker humbucking pickups are voiced specifically for each position, producing powerful, nuanced tones. Other key features include: a treble-bleed circuit, that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice and a new modern “Deep C”-shaped neck profile with narrow-tall frets that make it easy for players to bend strings. The American Professional Stratocaster HH ShawBucker model is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Black, Sonic Gray and Antique Olive. Pricing for the new American Professional Stratocaster HH ShawBucker is $1,399.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL STRATOCASTER® HSS SHAWBUCKER™

    The best of yesterday and today, the American Professional Stratocaster HSS ShawBucker is one of the latest forms of electric inspiration from Fender. The fat-sounding ShawBucker humbucking bridge pickup is joined by Tim Shaw’s latest vintage-informed design—the V-Mod single-coil pickups. Other new features include: a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice and a modern “Deep C” shaped neck profile with narrow-tall frets that make it easy to bend strings. The American Professional Stratocaster HSS ShawBucker is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Black, Sienna Sunburst, Sonic Gray, Antique Olive and Olympic White. Pricing for the new American Professional Stratocaster HSS ShawBucker $1,399.99-$1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL TELECASTER® & TELECASTER® LEFT-HAND

    The American Professional Telecaster & American Professional Telecaster Left-Hand encompasses everything artists need to play their best. Developed by legendary pickup master Tim Shaw, the new V-Mod single-coil pickups are voiced specifically for each position, mixing alnico magnet types to produce powerful and nuanced tones. Other key features include: the newly redesigned Telecaster bridge that sports three compensated brass barrel saddles, a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice, and a new modern “Deep C” shaped neck profile. The American Professional Telecaster is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Natural, Crimson Red Transparent, Sonic Gray, 2-Color Sunburst, Butterscotch Blonde and Mystic Seafoam. The Left-Hand model is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Black and Butterscotch Blonde. Pricing for the new American Professional Telecaster and American Professional Telecaster Left-Hand is $1,399.99-$1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL TELECASTER® DELUXE SHAWBUCKER™

    Today’s version of the American Professional Telecaster Deluxe ShawBucker, brings modern, player-oriented features to the stage and studio. The pair of warm, rich-sounding ShawBucker humbucking pickups are voiced specifically for each position, producing powerful, nuanced tones. Other key features include: a new modern “Deep C” shaped neck profile, a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice, and narrow-tall frets that make it easy to bend strings. The American Professional Telecaster Deluxe ShawBucker is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Sonic Gray, Black and Natural. Pricing for the new American Professional Telecaster Deluxe ShawBucker is $1,399.99-$1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL JAGUAR®

    The American Professional Jaguar has been updated with modern features and materials, “hot-rodding” it for today’s professional players. The brand-new V-Mod Jaguar pickups expand the guitar’s sonic palette with hot, vintage-informed tone. The improved tremolo and bridge incorporate a screw-in arm and brass Mustang saddles that stabilize the strings, while adding a touch of sonic zip to the player’s tone. Other new features include: the modern “Deep C” shaped neck profile, a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice, and narrow-tall frets. The American Professional Jaguar is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Sonic Gray and Antique Olive. Pricing for the new American Professional Jaguar is $1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL JAZZMASTER®

    An elegant model with flexible electronics and a rich voice, the American Professional Jazzmaster lends its unique sound to any player’s vision. Fender’s new V-Mod Jazzmaster pickups kick out hot, vintage-inspired tone with plenty of punch and definition. The improved tremolo and bridge incorporate a screw-in arm and brass Mustang saddles that stabilize the strings, while adding a touch of sonic zip to the player’s tone. Other new features include: a treble-bleed circuit that is tailored specifically for the guitar’s voice, modern “Deep C”shaped neck profile and narrow-tall frets. The American Professional Jazzmaster is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Sonic Gray and Mystic Seafoam. Pricing for the new American Professional Jazzmaster is $1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL JAZZ BASS® & JAZZ BASS® LEFT-HAND

    The American Professional Jazz Bass and the American Professional Jazz Bass Left-Hand combine modern features and materials with Fender’s craftsmanship and expertise to produce a contemporary bass. Developed by pickup master Michael Bump, the brand new V-Mod single-coil Jazz Bass pickups use a carefully selected blend of alnico magnet types. The redesigned tuning machines use a fluted shaft, creating optimum break angle over the nut, while keeping the string windings tight for increased sustain and enhanced tuning stability. Other new features include: a slim modern “C” shaped neck profile, narrow-tall frets, and Posiflex™ graphite support rods that run the length of the neck. The American Professional Jazz Bass is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Sonic Gray and Black. The Left-Hand model is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Sonic Gray and Black. Pricing for the new American Professional Jazz Bass and the American Professional Jazz Bass Left-Hand is $1,499.99.



    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL JAZZ BASS® FRETLESS

    The American Professional Jazz Bass Fretless combines modern features and materials with Fender’s craftsmanship and expertise to produce a contemporary bass. Developed by pickup master Michael Bump, the brand new V-Mod single-coil Jazz Bass pickups use a carefully selected blend of alnico magnet types for balanced tone. Other features include: the slim modern “C” shaped neck profile, and Posiflex™ graphite support rods that run the length of the neck. It also includes redesigned tuning machines that use a fluted shaft, creating the optimum break angle over the nut, while keeping the string windings tight for increased sustain. The American Professional Jazz Bass Fretless is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Black and Sonic Gray. Pricing for the new American Professional Jazz Bass Fretless is $1,499.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL JAZZ BASS® V

    The American Professional Jazz Bass V combines modern features and materials with Fender’s craftsmanship and expertise to produce a truly contemporary bass. Developed by pickup master Michael Bump, the brand new V-Mod single-coil Jazz Bass pickups use a carefully selected blend of alnico magnet types for balanced tone. The redesigned tuning machines use a fluted shaft, creating the optimum break angle over the nut while keeping the string windings tight for increased sustain. Other features include: a slim modern “C” shaped neck profile, narrow-tall frets, and Posiflex™ graphite support rods that run the length of the neck. The American Professional Jazz Bass V is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Black and Sonic Gray. Pricing for the new American Professional Jazz Bass V is $1,599.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL PRECISION BASS® & PRECISION BASS® LEFT-HAND

    As music evolves our instruments change in lockstep - the end result is today’s version of the American Professional Precision Bass and the American Professional Left-Hand. Developed by longtime bass pickup master Michael Bump, the brand new V-Mod split-coil Precision Bass pickup uses a carefully selected blend of alnico magnet types for balanced tone. Other features include: the “golden” ’63 P Bass neck profile, narrow-tall frets, Posiflex™ graphite support rods that run the length of the neck, and redesigned tuning machines that use a fluted shaft. The American Professional Precision Bass is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Black and Antique Olive. The Precision Bass Left-Hand model is offered in 3-Colored Sunburst, Olympic White and Black. Pricing for the new American Professional Precision Bass is $1,499.99, and the American Professional Left-Hand is $1,449.99.


    AMERICAN PROFESSIONAL PRECISION BASS® V

    The American Professional Precision Bass V combines the best of the past with modern materials and updated features to create a bass that’s ideal for professional players. Developed by longtime bass pickup master Michael Bump, the brand new V-Mod split-coil Precision Bass pickup uses a carefully selected blend of alnico magnet types for balanced tone. Other features include: the “golden” ’63 P Bass neck profile, Posiflex™ graphite support rods that run the length of the neck, and redesigned tuning machines that use a fluted shaft. The American Professional Precision Bass V is offered in 3-Color Sunburst, Olympic White, Black and Antique Olive. Pricing for the new American Professional Precision Bass V is $1,549.99.
     
  3. 經典

    經典 Active Member

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    個人猜測UFX II跟802一樣都是把內部一些數位原件更新,然後修改ㄧ些大家抱怨的問題。讓他真的只是個"2代"
    譬如FF800原本前面4 CH跟後面8 CH ANALOG IN不能同時使用,但是802就可以,變成真正的12 CH類比輸入。
    個人感覺UFX跟800這2大系列其實已經是很成熟的產品,對應的客群也說的很清楚。
    要去改成另一種風格來吸引買氣感覺上比較像是老美那邊的風格,德國佬似乎比較不愛這麼做。
    反而像是UFX +較像是另外一種應用的風格,看那些MADI跟數位接口。
    其實我覺得UFX+其實可以弄成新型號的說.....
     
  4. 聰明的木頭

    聰明的木頭 Well-Known Member

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    RME一貫特色,只要I/O數沒有超過頻寬就不會使用新的連結埠,他們產品經理會說:「I/O加起來才60 ch、USB2.0夠用了,USB3不會比較快。」
    UFX+導入USB3/Thutderbolt是因為它I/O總數為188 ch,足足是UFX II的三倍、一定要用USB3/Thutderbolt。

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    我覺得+跟II這兩台應該要反過來命名才對...或者如您所述以新型號命名,現在搞不懂+跟II哪台才算旗艦~

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    這個好像不會在NAMM 2017發表,但還是貼一下:
    Bitwig Studio 2
    https://www.bitwig.com/en/bitwig-studio/bitwig-studio-2
    美金399,比上一代貴100美金。

     
    已獲得Tricky按 "讚"!
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    其實不要用旗艦機種的想法去看待會比較輕鬆拉XD.......
    RME的說明讓人覺得他家的UFX跟800兩大系列其實錄出來品質一樣好。
    只是應用層面不同罷了.....個人喜歡這種風格,花錢買到你真正用的到的東西。
    如果真要出旗艦機,硬體最強,IN OUT數最多,包含所有數位跟類比接頭。
    面板有表頭,有即時儲存接口,還有夠用的MIC PRE.....
    簡單講就是把800跟UFX做再一起,弄出1個2U,然後售價20萬.......
    相信我,大家只會恥笑這種產品然後對他百般挑剔罷了......
     
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    802跟UFX+的AD是AKS5388EQ、DA是AK4414EQ,Google可看到拆機照。
    UFX II八九不離十應該會用這兩種AD / DA,如果規格比UFX+好,就不知道怎麼訂價了。
     
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    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    RME 規格怎麼樣實在對音質差別沒有想像大,因為各家都有自己的色調,而 RME 的音底都是偏冷硬的調子。有的人會認為很清晰,是中階產品裡的高階聲音,有人會覺得聽起來有點生硬、不太舒服而缺乏音樂性。

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    TC 倒是終於推出 VSS3 reverb native plugin。不過現在好的 reverb 選擇已經不少,競爭激烈,加上之前收掉 PowerCore 得罪過不少用戶 (我也中獎....),VSS3 儘管聲音很棒,算起來有點晚。

    http://www.tcelectronic.com/vss3-native/



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    VSS3 is the most professional tool of its kind, the Stereo Source Reverb behind tens of thousands of films, TV shows, albums and unforgettable tracks.

    Amazing versatility to make your project a success
    From our award-winning System 6000
    Works on all major DAWs; Pro Tools, Logic Pro, Cubase and more...

    Cross-grading from PowerCore or TDM
    If you already own a VSS3 license for PowerCore, ProTools|HD or ProTools|HD Accel, you know the merits of the VSS3 first-hand.

    Until May 1st 2017, all existing VSS3 users can cross-grade to the native version at a reduced price.

    The Sound You Want
    VSS3 Native is the most realistic and versatile reverb ever made for your DAW. With a wealth of possibilities to adjust, it will deliver the precise sound you need.

    Choose a preset for quick and no-fuss reverb delight - or move in depth to take full control of the early reflections, body and tail of your reverb.

    We call it "crazy tweak-ability".

    Link : VSS3 Native | TC Electronic
     
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    ADAM New S-Series
    https://www.adam-audio.com/en/news/industry/the-s-series/
    我還以為創立者兼主要設計者都跑掉又破產過的ADAM會一直吃老本...第三代的S系列有內建DSP。
    不曉得EVE跟HEDD這兩家ADAM創立者出來開的公司今年會不會有比較不一樣的產品出來?

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    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    實在太令人意外了..... Celestion 居然推出自家 speakers 的 Impulse Responses (IRs),對使用電腦模擬音箱的人應該是個福音! 用的 mics 是錄電吉他常見的 MD421、SM57、R121,和 Neumann TLM107 (room mic)。

    Mics info: https://www.celestionplus.com/ir-mic-mix-info/

    IR file format details: https://www.celestionplus.com/ir-file-formats/


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    Celestion, the premier manufacturer of guitar and bass loudspeakers and professional audio drivers for sound reinforcement applications, is very proud to announce their revolutionary new line of Impulse Responses (IRs), the definitive digital representations of their renowned classic guitar speaker tones. Created by Celestion using state-of-the-art gear, award-winning engineers and a world-class live room, the IRs offer users unlimited creativity and possibilities in owning their perfect tone. With the launch of the new website, Celestion Plus, IRs featuring seven different classic Celestion loudspeaker models, each in five different speaker cabinets may be auditioned, purchased and downloaded for use in studio and live production applications.

    Celestion IRs, which capture the essential behavior of the cabinet in the specific space in which it was recorded, including the frequency and phase response of single drivers as well as the interaction of multiple speakers, offer the user significant benefits. In both recording and live production, Celestion IRs enable the desired tone to be precisely and consistently reproduced regardless of the music recording or live sound environment. And IR users can escape the limitations of a single mic and cabinet setup and explore a universe of possibilities to create the perfect tone. Once you find a tone that you love, it can be precisely recreated, in the studio or on the road, time after time. And, for the first time, Celestion customers can audition specific models before purchasing one or more physical speakers.

    “Celestion have always been at the forefront of guitar speaker tone, so it should be no surprise that our impulse responses are the best available and the most accurate digital representations of your favorite tones,” says Nigel Wood, Celestion Managing Director. “We have a deep understanding of tone, as well as the complex, technical methodology required to capture it in the most precise and faithful way. Responding to a clear market demand, we see our definitive digital download products as a natural extension of Celestion’s product range -- providing the authentic speaker tone you crave — but simply in a digital, rather than physical, format.”

    The initial list of Celestion IRs available for purchase includes the company’s popular G12M Greenback, G12M-65 Creamback, G12M-75 Creamback, G12H Anniversary, G12-65, Celestion Blue and Vintage 30 models mounted in 1x12 and 2x12 open and closed back and 4x12 cabinets. The Celestion IRs were captured using a variety of spot and room microphones at Decoy Studios in England by U.K. recording engineer, producer and mixer Mike Spink, renowned for his work with artists such as The 1975, Jake Bugg and The Gaslight Anthem, who also created a menu of presets for each speaker model. Decoy Studios is home of mixer Cenzo Townsend, two-time recipient of The Music Producers Guild’s Best Mix Engineer award, who has produced special demonstration Celestion IR tones for the new web site.

    Celestion IR digital downloads are available in uncompressed, industry standard .WAV format at 44.1 kHz, 48 kHz, 88.2 kHz and 96 kHz sample rates at 24 bit depth, in lengths of 200 and 500 milliseconds Once the files are downloaded and unzipped, users simply load the IRs into a convolution plug-in in their DAW or into other processing hardware. These formats will work in all known hardware capable of loading IRs, and for the most popular hardware Celestion have already grouped together the correct formats. The Celestion IR files may be downloaded in the sample rate and length appropriate for the hardware being used or as a complete package of all rates and lengths. Certain third party hardware requires the files to be converted into a proprietary format before use.

    For more information about Celestion Impulse Responses, visit www.celestionplus.com
     
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    感謝分享。
    不過一般人用IR都是追求知名廠商的Cab,像Celestion這種用自家Cab的IR會有多少吸引力我覺得還要再觀望。

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    Universal Audio "APOLLO TWIN MKII"
    http://www.uaudio.com/audio-interfaces/apollo-twin-mkii.html
    升級點:
    • 改用與Rack同級AD/DA。
    • DSP新增QUAD選項。
    • 內建Talkback用麥克風。
    • Monitor功能加強。
    不曉得會不會順勢漲價?

     
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    大消息,Helix要出軟體版了
    http://line6.com/helix-native/
    美金399!!!!!!
    無預警就跑出來,相較之下Axe-FX的軟體版好像喊快一年了...

    Line 6同時釋出免費的IR包:http://line6.com/allure/

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    Tracktion > Waveform
    由天才程式設計師獨自完成的DAW "Tracktion"改版又改名了,新名為Waveform。
    官網還沒有正式消息,現知的變更點是:
    • 正式支援Raspberry Pi,測試版在Raspberry Pi 3裡可以支援20~30軌,
      Waveform因此成為現今支援系統最多的DAW:Mac/Windows/Linux/Raspberry Pi
    • 有Mixing View。
    • 內建旋律產生器、 高性能Arpeggiator、Sampler instrument。
    • 最重要的是沒有漲價~


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    RME過去的傳統--至少在UFX(含)以前--就是AD/DA有甚麼用甚麼,與全產品都用一樣晶片(應該)的Prism Sound不同、幾乎沒有固定的偏好。
    但就如掌門人所說、出來的音色卻沒有太大差異,所以他們採用甚麼AD/DA我想對音色走向都不會有太大影響。

    話說回來、從UFX一路用到Babyface Pro再用到SPL Creon,
    比對過去錄音與聆聽的感覺,隨著經驗的增加更深感RME的音色雖然Hi-Fi、中性但卻缺少音樂性,
    SPL在色調上與RME相近、也一樣是Hi-Fi性格,卻多了些活力與呼吸感。
    UFX對當初的我來說確實是大材小用,但對它(或RME)音色的評價卻是隨著經驗的累積而更加明確,
    如果我當初用的是與SPL同一AD/DA晶片(應該)的Prism Sound大概仍會混出不怎麼樣的成品,
    但或許會比RME更懷念它的音色--雖然我沒實際聽過Prism Sound~(笑)
    (本來想舉SPL當例子,不過SPL沒有大材小用的問題,只好硬拿"應該"用相同晶片的Prism Sound)


    過去我會認為RME的這種性格很適合用來混音,現在也不討厭這種走向,
    但更覺得音色應該多點活力、這樣錄/混音起來也比較舒服,至於這樣是不是算音染...
    老實說無音染這種事情根本不存在,只要中間有實體器材串連、就一定會有改變,這是無可避免的物理現象,
    既然如此、倒不如朝自己想要的方向去染色還比較快樂~
     
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    soop300 New Member

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    聽過 motu 192hd UAD 小+大
    在聽回去 RME 透測度還是差滿多
    DA差異上 是很明顯的
    加上 還有Antelope Audio的新卡 da都高的嚇人 透測度更好
    也別忘了 Prism Sound 等等之類
     
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  14. 掌門人

    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    這個 Slate Digital 的 audio interface 和 模擬 mics 的 ML2 Modeling Microphone System 引起不少討論。

     
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    Tricky Active Member

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    看完slate好激動喔 終於有人要解決關鍵問題了 還提供整包優惠方案
    全模擬的環境快完成了 還剩下耳機 喇叭 和取代鍵盤繪圖板的壓感觸控螢幕
     
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    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    別高興太早......用 $100 美金不到的 mic 來模擬其他經典 mics 基本上就說服力挺低…..而且模擬的工具是永遠買不完啊!

    壓感觸控螢幕不是早有了?
     
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    這個也滿好玩的 還可以當繪圖板 要集八片才能滿足鍵盤手吧....
     
  18. 掌門人

    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    其實你想要的是ㄧ個便宜的 Roli 取代板?
     
  19. Tricky

    Tricky Active Member

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    roli其實買的起 只是我覺得功能還是不夠 哈哈哈哈....(貪心)
    我想要10指感壓觸控螢幕取代keyboard和繪圖板
    自定keyboard 按鍵位置 形狀 標示....
    廠商大概不想出這樣的螢幕吧 沒幾個人會買

     
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    掌門人 當代校長張超然

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    純螢幕的當然界面可以自由更動,但和 Roli 或實體 faders 之類還是兩件事,都只解決ㄧ半又製造相對應的問題。實際上市場的確有很大的 DAW 控制器需求,但ㄧ直都做不起來。原因是除了少數為 Live 設計的 "類 DAW" 軟體,DAW 本是為滑鼠而設計,反之,也只有滑鼠才能做精細複雜的調整。而 "類 DAW" 軟體雖然可以用 touch 操作,以後經過幾個版本增加複雜功能後終究還是會變成重裝備的 DAW。因此實體的操控器雖可以解決 "操作觸感" 的直接問題,卻無法解決視覺界面與功能持續更改的配合問題。

    但觸控螢幕卻也同樣無法解決問題......任何人只要在 iPad 上轉過旋鈕都會知道觸控螢幕解決了 "視覺界面" 問題,卻無法解決不精確又不順手的問題。於是兩種解決方案都只能解決ㄧ半 (ㄧ個是用起來直接,看起來卻不直覺;ㄧ個是看起來直覺,用起來卻不直接),都只能配合滑鼠,而無法取代 90 年代遺留下來的問題。所以什麼 touch 觸控.....我覺得只能用於配合或少數領域 (例如單ㄧ sampler、合成器、錄音座等),是無法變成星際大戰那種搞法來取代整個音樂製作複雜流程。理論上若 DAW 整個重新為特定的 touch 面板設計的話,或許是比較可行的,但應該都不會是現今的這些 DAW 廠商,也不知道還有多少年。

    至於 Roli…..是ㄧ個 "樂器" ,從這個角度就會發現其價值。
     
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