各位都用哪種PreAmp來Direct Recording?

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  1. gtxsjoe

    gtxsjoe New Member

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    我決定不再打擾我的鄰居了!!
    但是錄音還是得錄~
    不知道哪一種For direct recording的Pre Amp可以推薦一下?
    目前相中Mesa 的Recto Recording Amp...
     
  2. 雜唸Roger

    雜唸Roger Member

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    Direct Recording的話我覺得目前最佳的解決方案就是Palmer PGA-04,其內建Load box可以直接進Poweramp真的很好用,一般Preamp的Record Out其Cabinet模擬的音色都是Fixed的沒辦法調整音色算是個缺點,而且很多的Preamp的Record Out都做的很差,只有Preamp錄起來的音色也不太對....
    我比較建議買一顆PGA-04..好用簡單又方便
     
  3. gtxsjoe

    gtxsjoe New Member

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    使用方式呢?
    是直接PreAmp Out接到PGA04然後到MIXER?
    還是說我如果有HEAD~可以直接LOAD到PGA04?
    上網查了一下~MANUAL是說PGA04是8歐姆120WLOAD BOX,看起來像是取代CAB的樣子!!

    以我自己來說,Guitar->TriAxis->VHT 2502->PGA04->Mixer的接法是否正確呢?

    價錢並不是很貴~蠻有興趣的!!
    不過從來沒用過,不知道真正使用起來的結果是如何?
     
  4. 雜唸Roger

    雜唸Roger Member

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    直接Poweramp Out接到PGA-04就OK了....
    這台本來就是設計要用來取代Cabinet直接錄音用.....
    不過因為有Load box所以沒辦法直接接Preamp out
    照你上面這樣接沒錯,這樣就可以錄出非常棒的音色....我自己有一台,真的很好用不管練習或錄音
     
  5. gtxsjoe

    gtxsjoe New Member

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    哪裡買得到呢?
     
  6. Mr72

    Mr72 Well-Known Member

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    對Palmer 稍加補充.......

    Palmer PGA-04 的前身是Palmer PDI-03.....designed by Martin Schmidtz in Germany.......The PDI-03 quickly came to an end when Palmer received a threat of legal action by Groove Tubes for having some similarities in design the their SE unit.......So Palmer dumped the 03, and designed a totally new one which is the PGA-04......

    According to a lot of people, the PDI 03 really sounds much better than the Groove Tubes SE,... so PDI 03 couldn't have been copying much, if anything, from GT. I think Palmer was so small that they didn't have the money to litigate even though they knew they had done nothing wrong. So they caved, and GT was successful in getting a competitors great product off the market............

    There are several different aesthetic differences in the units depending on the year.......So far I've seen four different versions.....
    The only version took the "PDI-03" off the front of panel that I've seen was in Eddie Van Halen's rack ..... It only printed "Palmer Speaker Simulator".....

    Here is how EVH 's Live set up signal chain.......

    *Guitar (Ernie Ball MusicMan/Peavey Wolfgang) to Sony wireless system with 2 outputs

    * Output one goes to a Peavey 5150 amp (8 ohms) into two 2x12" cabinets, as dry monitoring for Alex

    * Output 2 feeds a Bob Bradshaw switching system comprising one Peavey 5150 amp, into a Palmer mono speaker simulator

    **The simulator's output one (line level) goes to the Bradshaw input, where effects are added and the signal comes out in stereo to an HH V800 power amp. This feeds two 4x12" cabinets..... A line output from the V800 is sent to a further V800, powering two 4x12" cabs for Eddie
    **The simulator's output two (speaker level) goes to a single 4x12" cabinet (dry signal). All cabinets are loaded with 75w speakers, but the 'wet cabs' contain higher efficiency coil form for a cleaner sound.

    此外,,,,,Palmer 也有沒Load Box的simulator........

    </font><blockquote>引言:</font><hr /> 哪裡買得到呢? </font>[/QUOTE]我是在US買的.......
     
  7. gtxsjoe

    gtxsjoe New Member

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    Thanks for the information!!
     
  8. thunderbolt

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    看到palmer在Roger手上發光發熱,真是比躺在我家衣櫥裡生鏽好多了

    Roger,以後發個人專輯記得借我聽聽!
     
  9. 雜唸Roger

    雜唸Roger Member

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    閃電老師快別這麼說,能買到還得感謝你呢...^^
    還有一台最近剛推出的Cabinet模擬,開發這台的老兄是從Palmer跳槽出來,看起來也頗不賴,跟Palmer較勁的意味頗重,不過聽了別人做的A/B Test Clip後我個人感覺還是Palmer較自然些,尤其是破音的部份....
    http://www.motherload.co.uk/
     
  10. hunter

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    喔 難怪我用 podxt 錄起來
    聲音乾淨 但是沒有感受到生命力........

    原來還有另外取代麥克風收音箱的方法....

    不知還有何方式呢?
     
  11. legking

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    </font><blockquote>引言:</font><hr />原留言人 Nash:
    喔 難怪我用 podxt 錄起來
    聲音乾淨 但是沒有感受到生命力........

    原來還有另外取代麥克風收音箱的方法....

    不知還有何方式呢?
    </font>[/QUOTE]PALMER PGA4不適合, 接沒有帶POWERAMP的AMP Modeler.
    如果要用AMP MODELER來做比較動態的recording. 考慮
    BBE MAXIMIZER. 但是這個BBE COLOR TONE很嚴重. 是個非常大的缺點. 但是能把你的音色生命力抓回來.

    在做錄音或是練習的話, 嘗試把AMP MODELER 的 LEVEL調低, MASTER調高. 這樣感覺是有差
     
  12. cba

    cba Member

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    請問GT-HAND-EFF--POWER AMP.Power ampㄉ做用是??像Masa Boogie power amp 20:20 20:90 50:50這是做??
     
  13. monkey

    monkey Member

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    之前有討論過power amp,麻煩樓上的用搜索的功能找一下!

    另外想請教一下power amp有個slave out,他送出來的信號是前級信號或者是後級信號呢?

    另外可否介紹一下slave out的使用方式以及時機

    謝謝
     
  14. legking

    legking New Member

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    POWERAMP的SLAVE OUT是拿來接EFFECTS PROCESSORS 做STEREO的. 也可以拿來接出輸更大的POWERAMP 或是 音箱做更大的出輸.

    如果你poweramp 跟 preamp有接的話 poweramp slave out就是有帶" preamp跟poweramp訊號" 兩者都有.
    但是你直接slave out接CAB是不會有聲音的

    使用時機, 錄音室專業錄音. 大型演唱會. 家裡自己玩Stereo.
     
  15. Cool J

    Cool J New Member

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    想請問是否有前輩比較過以不同瓦數的 Head 或 Combo 去接 PALMER ,以小瓦數來說的表現不知是否良好,還是說大瓦數的表現較佳呢? 謝謝!!
     

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